Genesis: Chapter 1:1-2 01/15/202301/22/2023Ray PopeUncategorized http://atlantahypnotherapyclinic.com/wp-content/uploads/01.15.23-Gen-1-v1-2.mp3 In this second installment on our study in Genesis, we look at the first two verses of Genesis chapter one. Auto generated transcript: 0:02Alright, so we’re gonna start genesis today. 0:07First question, what should be the most consequential event in a person’s life? 0:17What should be consequential person other than being born, going to know, christ as? 0:31Alright, that’s second birth, right? 0:33That being born again? 0:35Okay, so everybody agrees with that, everybody. 0:40Is there any anybody want to challenge that? 0:43That’s the best thing to be reconciled with God through a new work? 0:50Okay. 0:51Second question is a full comprehension of God as creator essential to being born again, nope. 1:03All right, now, let me ask that similar questions, but in a different way, can a person be saved who denies God’s full sovereignty over creation? 1:19But what’s the distinction? 1:20What’s the fine distinction between those two questions, understanding completely God as creator, God is sovereign over creation central, but denying them, you deny God’s sovereignty, You’re denying who he is. 1:41So, you don’t know, I know that salvation is fundamentally fundamentally an issue of the heart. 1:54That’s why you can have little Children who have so little mental concepts of doctrine and all that. 2:03Very little understanding of the radio things of structure, but yet are saved. 2:08Because the issue of the heart, it does seem like if some issue like that came up where it was discussed in a way that could be understood and it was rejected. 2:21It does seem like it’s a lack of Mhm. 2:26Whatever you call it forgiveness. 2:29And what about people who say like this bad thing happened, but that really wasn’t God’s will this person he, you know, it was, which I mean, I don’t know, assume that person award. 2:44That’s a good question. 2:45Okay, so, so the folks that are of the mindset that, oh, you know, that, you know, bad things happening to good people like that happened, God didn’t kind of the open, what was that called? 3:02Open theology? 3:03Kind of idea that God doesn’t control all those things. 3:10That’s an interesting question. 3:11I don’t know, anybody else answered their thoughts. 3:17Well, first of all, everybody, every human being born deserves to go to hell unless except for having been written into the book of life before time. 3:32, so, you know, nobody deserves to have good done to them in other words too. 3:41So it’s part of the part of being human, of knowing evil, you have to know evil to no good and bad things happening to bad people is what happens. 4:01Well, I think we all can agree that they’re they’re a person to be maybe attended church, that that just gets the theology completely wrong. 4:11But there can be true believers in that church, right? 4:14The elect can be there. 4:16I think we probably would all agree there. 4:17So there’s a lot of things we don’t have the Yeah, that’s right, as long as they think outside the that particular building or group, I think we can agree on that. 4:31And but to get to that fundamental issue of God’s creator and deny that, I think that’s problematic, a high level now, Jeff was starting to take taking some other place. 4:43So we’re gonna start getting into the book of genesis today and personalize it for me, it seems like it’s well, even if we’re a young earth folks, that’s a long time ago, what’s the relevance to us? 5:03Jeff has already taken us there, I don’t know if he realized Mr Green, we’re actually starting against ourselves to bible reading and every time you go through the bible, which is something new, the kitchen and what what hit us this time was just the magnificence of God’s creation and the magnificence of him creating us. 5:32and yet, you know, he’s given us responsibilities in this creation and it just takes you back to psalm eight saying what is man, I mean, after all of this? 5:46Magnificent and you know, just have a little grandson and had four others and you just look at these little guys in this fight, how did this happen? 5:55And and yet and yet forgot to give us standing rule and through the Gospel. 6:06It’s just all right, okay, so when I was growing up in my old southern baptist days, temp revivals, all that, there was a song that they would say really upbeat, you know, kind of revival song, but there was a new name is written down in Heaven and it’s mine. 6:26Yes, it’s mine. 6:27What’s wrong with that theologically timing? 6:34I heard over here. 6:35Okay, already written there. 6:38Okay, when was that name written? 6:43You read the board the answers up there. 6:46Okay, Before the foundation of. 6:47Okay, so is this relevant to us? 6:51Yeah. 6:52Okay. 6:53If if it’s before our soul was created that we were planned, right? 7:01Just like everything else in creation is isn’t that cool? 7:05I’m sorry. 7:07I have kind of followed astronomy for my whole life. 7:12Can we let them talk for two seconds. 7:17They always, they say all the stars are millions of light years and all this kind of stuff. 7:22I had always felt that there was kind of a wall out there, that all the stars were kind of painted on my God. 7:30And they’re actually those two Voyager things they sent out there 30 50 years ago, whatever it was there, actually finding that there’s something out there, kind of a wall out there. 7:47we’re getting there. 7:48We’re gonna give us about three verses and we’re gonna be there. 7:55day one. 7:56We’re gonna get to that very question. 7:58Okay, now, we do know, do know if we’re gonna talk about cosmology, just jump ahead that the bible talks about this expanse or whatever we talk about and today, the cosmologist. 8:12Okay, We’ll talk about the, it’s called the Van Halen radiation belt. 8:20It’s the thing that divides our atmosphere from the vacuum of space. 8:26So, but we’ll get there and say this is kind of warming you guys up. 8:30All right, well, let’s let’s actually start at the beginning. 8:34So in the beginning, God unpack that for me. 8:40All right, First of all, let’s say the phrase in the beginning. 8:46So at this point, right? 8:48At this point nothing’s been created. 8:50Okay. 8:52So what is there? 8:56Yeah, but when we say that though, what’s our mind? 9:02What what how do you envision that? 9:08Okay. 9:10Yeah. 9:12So you see dark, we think my mind kind of goes to that train to think well it’s just empty space. 9:19It’s space but still empty space. 9:27There’s the answer is we are even the very concept of space. 9:32You know, that’s not there either. 9:37Yeah, it truly is. 9:38Just at that point, God is beyond space beyond time. 9:43God true, is there? 9:47And he’s looking down on you know, our space. 9:51Okay. 9:52Alright. 9:53He’s he’s in the present. 9:56Omnipotent and Okay, well, that takes me to man justice. 10:02Gonna teach this lesson. 10:08What what are the if if God is God, what are just some of the basic essential traits or characteristics or attributes of what must be to truly begun And you just wrap present and all knowing self existent. 10:34What do you mean by that? 10:35Well, nothing comes from nothing. 10:38So something had I heard I heard our sea scrolls say this before and it’s even hard to comprehend when a human being tries to explain it, but for anything to be something has to have the power of self existence in itself. 10:59It peel it all the way back. 11:01Something has to be self existence can’t be dependent on anything else for his existence. 11:07Everything else depends on God for its existence. 11:12So going back to God, I think his self existence has to be pretty primary. 11:19One of the things, almost all other religions have this concept, even if they have a concept of God or gods, they’re also, they also think there’s matter, and then this guy came in and dealt with that matter, that’s not what we think. 11:32There’s not matter, there, there’s God, there’s no matter, okay, and, and God has existed and in ways that we can’t even understand, you know, what does eternity past me? 11:47Just sign, okay, You know, at some point we just got to say, okay, God, I’m gonna let you be God, that’s a little bit too far, for me. 11:57So what did the trade, I was just gonna say, I think it’s really interesting that if you, if you’ve read along the way for the last, you know, 30 40 years,, you’ll find that come up with a theory of beginnings, you know, the Big Bang theory and this, that and the other theory and so forth. 12:18And then a little later down the road, they say, now that’s all bunk, we’ve come up with a brand new theory and it’s like, but before they came up with a new theory, the old one was absolute gospel to the, you know, quote the scientist. 12:30And so it’s kind of like you’re trying to figure out stuff that happened, you know, before you and I were born And why don’t you just read genesis? 12:40I like what y’all are thinking here. 12:43Okay, so what are the typical traits of a man made God changes? 12:55Well, we got that pagan gods look like seem like people, but they have the same character. 13:11I don’t think we know what the spirit, it’s not in three dimensions. 13:21It’s not in time. 13:22It’s it’s something that is beyond our comprehension, yep, yep. 13:31We are definitely. 13:32And and that kind of gets and I didn’t have it in my notes because that gets in the whole idea of the infinite and the finite. 13:40Okay, guys, you know, and we are finally, what problem does that cause us? 13:50And trying to understand God, we can’t see the infinite because of her. 13:58Fine. 13:58I mean, you know, we see everything. 14:02We know it ends dissolved decay goes away. 14:07So we have a hard time understanding anything that survives. 14:14So I have a hard time with reverse before. 14:20Yeah. 14:23What was God doing before he got around to? 14:30Well then you get to hop out and say, well, he’s not really on the because he’s outside of time. 14:35Oh, you know, that doesn’t make it any easier does. 14:38Okay. 14:40There’s an interesting passage. 14:42I think it’s in the Book of Judges about when God appeared to? 14:46I believe it was Noah, he says what is your name in one translation that says, why do you ask? 14:52Because I have my name is incomprehensible. 14:56So I think that speaks to the infinity aspect of God. 15:03Okay, you only got two more times. 15:11There’s a story from the 17 hundreds somebody wrote called Flat Land and okay, okay, existence is a plane and all of a sudden there it’s the story goes on about these beings on this plane and all of a sudden a spot for him speaking for the main character and the spot then Yeah, you want to stop you. 15:44because he just get into something I could talk all day with you guys about because it’s a pet interest of mine. 15:53So there’s a Jewish theologian in the 12th century and starts with the end, I don’t remember. 15:58And out of the first book of Genesis, he finds 10 dimensions. 16:03Well, we spent oodles of money to create these particle collider concern and all. 16:10And they had this big announcement, there’s at least 10 dimensions, just like, well, you know, first chapter of Genesis tells us what, what does that mean? 16:19Well, that’s where it gets to talk about not being able to find out to comprehend the the infinite. 16:25We in our dimensional bodies can’t comprehend other dimensions, We can talk about them philosophically at all, but we can’t really understand that, but we if we got on that, I’d be here week after week after week and we never get anywhere. 16:40So we’re gonna put that discussion to the side. 16:44Alright, so, so when, when God as creator starts here in the beginning, God created, what is what does that make God? 17:02I’m not asking the question, right? 17:03But I don’t know how friends creator and makes him want overall author of all things I like that sustains sustains. 17:18Okay, Sovereign, sovereign. 17:20Okay, that idea, that’s where I was going. 17:22That idea of sovereignty over everything. 17:25Okay, so then the, ken I’m gonna ask you. 17:30Okay, so the word God here unpack it. 17:34Yeah, so it’s the guest general term for God and then you find and starting chapter two and the I am at the end of makes it one plural. 17:51So in the first four words, the trinity is, in a sense suggested, right, just right off when we’re done with dimensions, we’ll move on to the trinity. 18:08Okay, wait, well, let young folks will be teaching that wasted utilize so much time. 18:18Okay, so plural form or introduce them, which is interesting. 18:24Right? 18:25So, so the jews are monotheistic. 18:32Okay, believe in one God, we do All right, but this is interesting that in the opening text the hebrews would have to agree with us. 18:44Thank God at least 24. 18:47Yeah, there’s a plural form there. 18:50So something’s going on. 18:51Okay, so what were the I’m looking at my birth. 19:05Okay, so the you where we were talking back there what did God create? 19:15Earth and heavens out nothing. 19:20Okay, so what’s the fancy term for that? 19:22Okay, several of you know that. 19:25Okay. 19:26Out of nothing. 19:27Something Okay, nothing. 19:31Something that’s the problem with the Big Bang theory, there had to be something to create self here we’re dealing with and that God and God after some some will argue, get into the science of this, that after creation God then re implement certain physical laws that he’s outside of. 19:57This is certainly one of those where it doesn’t make, you know, it’s hard for us to comprehend. 20:04Okay, what he’s talking about there. 20:08So what rights come with God with God as creator, what rights does he acquire have not necessarily required, what does he already have authority? 20:22Authority. 20:23Right over one. 20:27Okay, takes me to those passages that talk about potter and clay, you know that God is creating it and I can do with it wasn’t alright, so we’ll move into I didn’t do a very good job on my outline, throwing myself off. 20:48So let’s go ahead, let’s go ahead and get into Okay, yeah, we’re number one in the heavens and the Earth. 20:56Okay, so he creates the heavens and the Earth. 21:04Earth, I think we kinda get right dirt. 21:07Yeah, that’s kinda right Earth, but heavens, does anybody have a translation that says heaven? 21:18That was the older translation is Brandon, but most of the heavens is right, it’s plural. 21:23So how many heavens are there? 21:24All right, tell us about the heaven that we have right here and what the atmosphere, atmosphere. 21:31Okay. 21:32And Okay. 21:35All right. 21:35We’re just about out of time space matter time. 21:39Okay so you’re saying his heaven is kind of a spiritual thing. 21:44Okay, hang on to that thought. 21:46Okay because we’re gonna have to we’re gonna have to explore that a little bit. 21:49All right, bob Oh I thought you were raising your hand. 21:55Okay. 21:57Alright, alright so we get into it. 22:00So so we know there’s three heavens because who refers to a third heaven paul paul? 22:09See that there was a man whether in his body or outside his body was caught up into the third heaven. 22:13Right. 22:18Thank you. 22:21Can you come every week join with us. 22:26All right. 22:29And earth here is said the earth not really defined for us. 22:33Let’s get into the second Second word. 22:39Somebody read first to all the way the earth was without form and void. 22:46And darkness was over the face of the deep and the spirit of God was hovering over the face of the waters. 22:52Okay, so this is an interesting verse. 22:57Okay, and so there’s some areas that we could just avoid and not go into but as somebody who was one of the speakers I was listening to this week in preparation was complimenting our seas troll and his ministry on the fact that they took all these tough issues. 23:14They weren’t afraid to ignore an issue they would talk about. 23:17So this this verse here leads to a lot of discussions because of a couple of words that Okay. 23:27And the first one is does anybody have anything that says it has the third word anything besides was Alright. 23:40So there’s a there’s a and interpretation of the exact words being used there that is became And then the other language of foreign void suggests ruin. 23:54Well, something became ruined. 23:59What would that suggest as a possible mean pre existed? 24:05Okay. 24:06And so from this and we’re gonna come back and unpack this and show why this is not is probably not the correct interpretation. 24:16But if you were looking, if you were a scientist and you were looking and you needed 04 or five billion years to work with to make your theories work, maybe we could find it then there was something before. 24:34Right. 24:34And so you could get into that whole discussion of well, what was before and is this God starting over again. 24:42Okay, so there’s that kind of idea. 24:45There’s also people that and I, you know, you sometimes I just get irritated with academics Because they’re they’re trying to come up with a new idea, a new theory, you know? 24:58And so they get to looking who shows up in Chapter three, the serpent, the devil shows up where where he come from. 25:08And where was what was going on here? 25:10Was that part of this gap? 25:12So that’s called the gap theory. 25:14Okay. 25:15The gap theory, we can almost set aside. 25:18Go ahead. 25:19There are just two comments. 25:20One is it struck me that it is it makes perfect sense that there’s a lot we don’t understand considering God being who he is and who we are. 25:31I think about this, we’re doing all creation and it’s really just an outline that we’re given, right? 25:35So the arrogance of an unbeliever to think you don’t understand that. 25:39I mean you’re there, he has no validity because you don’t well if we’re dealing with infinity that it makes perfect sense that there’s a lot we don’t understand. 25:48So that’s often struck me the second thing was when the high school I was taught that God created the world and that there was this that satan was originally in a position of leadership and that he and his angels fell and when that happened the world became formless. 26:09That’s what I was taught. 26:11I don’t necessarily I don’t agree. 26:15I don’t I mean I haven’t studied it thoroughly but I don’t think I agree with that but that’s you know that was 11 thing that’s being taught in christian circles. 26:23Okay. 26:24Alright. 26:25Any thoughts on that here, you know? 26:28Okay, alright. 26:29Not picking on you. 26:31I just thought all right, So but you know the whole idea? 26:34Where were the angels? 26:35The fallen angels? 26:36When were they? 26:36When did they fall? 26:38What was that? 26:39We’re not told when God created angels. 26:42Okay, I got heavens and earth. 26:45And if there was nothing before that, then at some point here is the creation of the angels. 26:52All right. 26:58couple of other theories. 26:59I’ll go ahead and hit them now so we can get them out of the way. 27:03and that the, the idea of what’s called the day age theory of creation. 27:12Okay, The day age theory is the theory that the days are symbolic, that they don’t necessarily mean 24 hour days and, oh, before I get back, the word was okay in the prior first, I forgot to tell you this. 27:30It’s, it appears other places in the Bible in several places. 27:35It is interpreted as became, but 99% of the time that’s interpreted as was now moving on to another issue, akin to that. 27:49and that’s the day age idea. 27:51Okay, so the question becomes, and this has been, somewhat Hot testing issue among denominations and that’s the idea that a day as we see injustice, one represents something other than the 24 hour day. 28:07Yeah, because you know, a day is 1000 years or 1000 years as a correct. 28:14They go there they go there. 28:15So the work here is here. 28:20No, it’s the hebrew word. 28:22Okay. 28:22Most of the time, most of the time it is interpreted as a 24 hour day. 28:29But sometimes it’s choosed to represent something else as if I were to say, well back in my day, you realize I’m talking to a period of time. 28:41Is that the same word that throughout? 28:44Yeah, every time. 28:45Yeah, Yeah, Yeah. 28:46Okay. 28:47Yeah. 28:49The strongest. 28:51So so we as a denomination actually hold to the 6 24 hour days and what’s called the young. 29:01Yeah, we’re talking about God here. 29:03I mean to hypothesize, you know, a billion years as a day or whatever is just to take away from the power of God. 29:14So I mean these things are just human pride trying to Cause themselves to understand like that. 29:23Well, I have, one of the commentators said what his question is, why did take six tents? 29:30There’s probably a message there for us and that. 29:50Well both of y’all make good point, the idea that there must be in him doing it this way. 29:58There must be something for us to learn from the right from that process. 30:02Okay. 30:03And then the other and what you decided to is a proof text Of the 24 hours is that when we get to exodus and we’re told to keep the sabbath holy in supporting that. 30:16It’s because there’s a reference to those other 6, 24 hour days. 30:22And so that’s a real big proof text for that idea. 30:26The other one that gets kicked around and this really is when you get into some, I would think this would be more liberal circles would be this idea that really all were given in genesis is a framework, you know, the days don’t, the timing doesn’t really matter, it’s just kind of framework to work from. 30:44That gives you a lot of wiggle room, Right? 30:46If you if you’re wanting to push a theory that conflicts with the traditional theory that well, ok, alright, so who is, what’s the earth like it? 31:02How did you envision? 31:05Alright, seems wet. 31:08Why do I get this idea of kind of being a swamp? 31:14Yeah, but because who is here? 31:21Spirit. 31:23Spirit. 31:23Okay, so we’re introduced to another member of the trinity here, it could be simply the word wind, because wind and spirit similar, but it certainly looks like the spirit that God is present even at this time. 31:38And then there’s the talk of the right, so there’s a lot of water. 31:44Okay, we’re not exactly sure what’s going on, but there’s a lot of water involved. 31:57Alright, ready to get into it. 31:59Day 1, 1st of all, look at your bible, if your bible breaks it into paragraphs, Where do they read verse two in the same paragraph, verse one or in the same paragraph, anybody But Okay, good. 32:22I think that’s the right one because every verse after that, when God creates is just and God said and that seems to be the initiation of that debt and God said, So let’s read, let’s have some read 34 and five and we’re probably gonna start here next week. 32:46Let’s go ahead and read this. 32:47And I want to get things here, Jeff has already raised some interesting. 32:54Alright, so we got it for 34. 32:58God said, let there be light and there was light. 33:01And God saw that the light was good and God separated the light from the darkness. 33:06God called the light day and the darkness he called night and there was evening and there was morning, the first day. 33:12Okay. 33:14Really thinking So which day of the week is this sunday? 33:22Okay, because the sabbath is gonna be saturday, right? 33:25Seven days. 33:26So we’re gonna call this one sunday. 33:29All right. 33:31So, how did jesus? 33:33Well, jesus, how did jesus create life? 33:37How did God create life? 33:41All right. 33:45And he determined what about the light? 33:49It was good. 33:50Alright. 33:51So, I think the very first thing very first thing that does that he does is create line. 34:00Pretty talk to me about life, electricity, some life true chris shine it illuminates things. 34:12All right. 34:20You use your vision to use the light to there must be some sort of ability to see he he foresees ability of his creation to see on this case God is light. 34:44What? 34:46Really? 34:47No, no, that’s becoming a four point when we get a few days down the road and what’s created the stuff that creates light. 34:55So there’s So what are we told about the new creation at the end? 35:06How it’s gonna be this guy’s gonna be a source of life. 35:12Yeah. 35:12I just point out that we have to be careful this emanation theology where because this light is created, it’s not extending from his being. 35:21So that would be a distinction between creation and new creation. 35:24With respect to be the light. 35:30Yeah. 35:30We’re gonna have to wrap up here. 35:32So just, just real quick, just square quick, you know, while we’re there and this That’s interesting that you brought that up. 35:39I’ve always thought about the transfiguration. 35:43Okay. 35:44So what are we told about their clothes at the transfiguration? 35:51Yeah. 35:53Yeah. 35:54It was different, right? 35:56Wider than a longer could whiten it, you know? 36:00So, there’s that that idea, But that’s not that’s not emanating All right. 36:07It could be at that point because we’re talking about creative things, right? 36:09At that point. 36:10So, it could be eliminated. 36:11But that was but it was a different type of light source almost in the clothes that they were wearing, which I think is kind of cool. 36:21Alright. 36:22So, my wife’s pointing at her watch, let me know which which that’s not because she’s bored. 36:29She’s there to let me know that. 36:32Alright, that’s part of her job. 36:34That’s right. 36:35So with that? 36:36All right. 36:37So, we’re gonna pick up next week. 36:38Ok. 36:39So, it gets real interesting next week. 36:41I want you all to focus on the word expanse. 36:44Just one more thing. 36:46The OPC did a study committee report back in 2004 on the question of the length of the creation days. 36:51You can find it on the OPC website very helpful analysis of various views and their strengths and weaknesses. 37:02Also, just one thing I’ve thought about the length of days is I find it very telling when it says God God said and it was so sort of implies that it happened pretty quickly. 37:16A long period of time. 37:19It doesn’t, in my opinion, doesn’t fit into that gets support of a day as a day. 37:25Okay, so we’re gonna pick up there and then we get into some real interesting stuff, Jeff was trying to get us there earlier. 37:37No, it’s just fascinating. 37:39Okay, so there’s a word, there’s a word, Rocky is the hebrew word. 37:46Okay, cancers are in your bible. 37:48It’s gonna be read as expands at one time, it would be read as firmament and all. 37:54And so that becomes a real interesting discussion as we look at. 37:59And I mentioned this last week. 38:02How did until about six or 700 years ago. 38:05How did everybody almost worldwide perceive things like stars and planets and stuff like that? 38:16It was a very very different world, a world just to give in which outer space didn’t exist. 38:26Yeah. 38:27The globe. 38:30huh. 38:30And the Earth was at the center of it. 38:32Yes. 38:33Alright. 38:34So that takes us a lot of interesting places there. 38:36Alright. 38:37But we’ll try not to get too weird but we gotta go. 38:41All right. 38:42All right, so let me pray. 38:44Hey father, we thank you for your word Lord. 38:46We are just humbled, humbled when it come to your word and and understand you and your immense power and sovereignty in our inability other than by your communication, by your love to even begin to comprehend. 39:08Thank you for your word. 39:09Thank you for this book of genesis. 39:12Bless this study and bless everyone here as we leave in christ’s name. 39:16Amen.